New Israeli Settlements in the West Bank: Middle East Peace?: Not in Our Lifetime
Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2010
by Paul Schroeder
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"There were no such thing as Palestinians. When was there an independent Palestinian people with a Palestinian state? It was either southern Syria before the First World War, and then it was a Palestine including Jordan. It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist. "
Sunday Times, 1969-06-15; The Washington Post, 1969-06-16
Israel has lived daily with many 911's, at the hands of terrorist threats within and terrorist threats without and has learned very harsh lessons that America with its one singular 911 terrorist attack is now only beginning to have an inkling of; what is Israel's true attitude about the Palestinians?
The false legend of an Arab Palestinian nation is a myth created and marketed worldwide.
There is no spoken or written language known as Palestinian, or any Palestinian culture distinct from that of all the Arabs in the Middle East area.
There has never been a sovereign land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians.
"Palestinians" are Arabs completely indistinguishable from Arabs throughout the entire Middle East.
The predominant Arab population in this contested area, in truth, migrated into Israel and Judea and Samaria from the surrounding Arab countries during the past 100 years.They have no historical claim to any property within the State of Israel.
When the political rebirth of Israel was accompanied by economic prosperity in the region, Arabs migrated to this contested area to find work and to relish a new higher standard of living.
In documents over hundred years old, the area contested and now over populated was always described as a very scarcely populated region.
Jews were by far historically the majority living in Jerusalem compared to a very small Arab minority.
Up to the Oslo agreement the only source of money for Arab residents in this falsely claimed area were jobs in the Israeli sector.
All of these Palestinians have come from other Arab countries who should now repatriate them.
All of the Arab leaders there, including the past so called Chairman of the Palestinian Authority, Arafat , was not a "Palestinian", but was was born in Egypt.This is true for all the 'elders'.
The famous "Palestinian covenant" states that Palestinians are originally "an integral part of the Arab nations" -- nations with a sparsely populated land mass 660 times the size of tiny Israel (Judea, Samaria and Gaza included).
The operative word is "sparse"
Arab sovereignty claims over Israel should be seen for their one real stated intention, the destruction of Israel as a Jewish state, the one and only democracy and true foundation of the Judeo-Christian civilization in the Middle East.
Palestinians have no legitimate claims to be even called "Palestinians" let alone have any legitimate claims to any territories within.
The Israeli government should in my opinion pack all of them all up lock, stock and barrel and deport them, deposit them in neighboring so-called sympathetic Arab abundant lands.
It is true that the Jews' claims to th
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Imagine a bomb throwing Jewish population within the hearts of Egypt or Saudi Arabia or evil Iran;Would there be "respect for their culture and religion"?
If all Israeli Arabs had their wish all Jews, would be on a line to the crematoriums to finish the job that Hitler started.
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The Jews were indeed a predominate majority in that contested land, who became "Israelis", as such, only when the United Nations gave them that national identity.
These newly nationalized Jews begged their Arabs neighbors who lived there to remain with them and to build a homeland with them.
But, the Arab Mufti leaders demanded that all Arabs should leave all their properties and that they should return armed, en masse, to wrest it from the Jews' hands; when these Arabs did this, when they left, they, in the newly defending Israeli's mind set, relinquished all rights to their previous lands.
It was only then, at that point, that Jews took up arms to defend their new homeland
I should expect, in any skewed and stilted comparison of this Middle East conundrum to the European American's horrid treatment of indigenous Native Americans, a suggestion that Israeli Jews give the Palestinian Arabs casino rights.
Palestinians are not the only group of Arabs devoted to eliminating the Jewish State of Israel.
What Ahmadinajad has said about Israel is that they should be "erased, wiped out, away, from the World's map".
This monster is now in the process of developing Iran's, his country's thermonuclear weapons, to achieve that stated goal, the very Jewish mass genocide that Hitler could only have dreamed
Israel has never said that 'Iran should be erased from the map"; Israel did not develop atomic weapons as a stated goal to expunge Iran from the map.
Israeli youngsters do not strap toy explosives to their chests the way Palestinian youngsters do, trained by their adults in rehearsal for future suicide bomb attacks. Arabs hate us; do we hate them?
"Hate" has nothing to do with Israeli political thinking.
To have ANY sense of "peace", we must have a political 'partner', in peace, and the current "Palestinian" 'partner' simply isn't a suitable ' partner'' in any negotiated sense of the word 'peace' as at this point in time their only political desire is the Jews' destruction and the destruction of the Jewish state.
Israelis do indeed believe and echo, that only perhaps after several successive generations of 'Palestinians' shall we find that we may indeed have found such a suitable 'partner' required for that Israeli much sought after peace; any other belief in a peace, now, is delusional, given their unqualified murderous intent to our nation.
So a fallacy of any argument that Israel does not want peace is that it does not recognize that Israel needs a partner in peace.
We used to think of the Communist Russians as our true cultural enemies, but their culture is and always has been much like ours.
Russians go to churches(when allowed to ), love making money, have a healthy disrespect for religious fanatics of all ilks, they frequent cafes, believe in evolution, drink alcohol ; especially vodka, they go to operas and party with gorgeous babes.
In many ways their culture is not and has never been a threat because they are so very much aligned with what America seeks as "fun".
The real cultural enemies of our nation's culture and our nation are the fundamentalist islamics who want to exterminate us as well as our culture and replace it with theirs.
Much like the Kamikaze death pilots of WW2, Islamic fundamentalists are unafraid of death within the context of Jihad, in perpetrating their so called cultural superiority.
They want to dress our women, like they force their women to, in bee-keeper outfits, to indoctinate free thinking and replace Democracy with mindless rote religion, to kill all infidels who do not subscribe to their religious fanaticism, to eliminate all eating of pork as well as to stop any drinking of alcohol and smoking.
This is a real cultural war and illustrates the insanity of embracing any state enforced religion that dictates watching beheading, in a public stadium, as fun on a Saturday night, for crimes of minor infractions of their religious laws.
I conclude with a quote that the leader of Israel most recently made when he addressed the U.N. General Assembly the day after the rabid president of Iran again denied the Holocaust publicly:
"Netanyahu Speech at UN
International News
By William Light
on Monday, September 27, 2010
'Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen,
Nearly 62 years ago, the United Nations recognized the right of the Jews, an ancient people 3,500 years-old, to a state of their own in their ancestral homeland.
I stand here today as the Prime Minister of Israel, the Jewish state, and I speak to you on behalf of my country and my people.
The United Nations was founded after the carnage of World War II and the horrors of the Holocaust. It was charged with preventing the recurrence of such horrendous events.
Nothing has undermined that central mission more than the systematic assault on the truth. Yesterday the President of Iran stood at this very podium, spewing his latest anti-Semitic rants. Just a few days earlier, he again claimed that the Holocaust is a lie.
Last month, I went to a villa in a suburb of Berlin called Wannsee. There, on January 20, 1942 , after a hearty meal, senior Nazi officials met and decided how to exterminate the Jewish people. The detailed minutes of that meeting have been preserved by successive German governments. Here is a copy of those minutes, in which the Nazis issued precise instructions on how to carry out the extermination of the Jews. Is this a lie?
A day before I was in Wannsee, I was given in Berlin the original construction plans for the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp. Those plans are signed by Hitler's deputy, Heinrich Himmler himself. Here is a copy of the plans for Auschwitz-Birkenau, where one million Jews were murdered. Is this too a lie?
This June, President Obama visited the Buchenwald concentration camp. Did President Obama pay tribute to a lie?
And what of the Auschwitz survivors whose arms still bear the tattooed numbers branded on them by the Nazis? Are those tattoos a lie? One-third of all Jews perished in the conflagration. Nearly every Jewish family was affected, including my own. My wife's grandparents, her father's two sisters and three brothers, and all the aunts, uncles and cousins were all murdered by the Nazis. Is that also a lie?
Yesterday, the man who calls the Holocaust a lie spoke from this podium. To those who refused to come here and to those who left this room in protest, I commend you. You stood up for moral clarity and you brought honor to your countries.
But to those who gave this Holocaust-denier a hearing, I say on behalf of my people, the Jewish people, and decent people everywhere: Have you no shame? Have you no decency?
A mere six decades after the Holocaust, you give legitimacy to a man who denies that the murder of six million Jews took place and pledges to wipe out the Jewish state.
What a disgrace! What a mockery of the charter of the United Nations! Perhaps some of you think that this man and his odious regime threaten only the Jews. You're wrong.
History has shown us time and again that what starts with attacks on the Jews eventually ends up engulfing many others.
This Iranian regime is fueled by an extreme fundamentalism that burst onto the world scene three decades ago after lying dormant for centuries. In the past thirty years, this fanaticism has swept the globe with a murderous violence and cold-blooded impartiality in its choice of victims. It has callously slaughtered Moslems and Christians, Jews and Hindus, and many others. Though it is comprised of different offshoots, the adherents of this unforgiving creed seek to return humanity to medieval times.
Wherever they can, they impose a backward regimented society where women, minorities, gays or anyone not deemed to be a true believer is brutally subjugated. The struggle against this fanaticism does not pit faith against faith nor civilization against civilization.
It pits civilization against barbarism, the 21st century against the 9th century, those who sanctify life against those who glorify death.
The primitivism of the 9th century ought to be no match for the progress of the 21st century. The allure of freedom, the power of technology, the reach of communications should surely win the day. Ultimately, the past cannot triumph over the future. And the future offers all nations magnificent bounties of hope. The pace of progress is growing exponentially.
It took us centuries to get from the printing press to the telephone, decades to get from the telephone to the personal computer, and only a few years to get from the personal computer to the internet.
What seemed impossible a few years ago is already outdated, and we can scarcely fathom the changes that are yet to come. We will crack the genetic code. We will cure the incurable. We will lengthen our lives. We will find a cheap alternative to fossil fuels and clean up the planet.
I am proud that my country Israel is at the forefront of these advances - by leading innovations in science and technology, medicine and biology, agriculture and water, energy and the environment. These innovations the world over offer humanity a sunlit future of unimagined promise.
But if the most primitive fanaticism can acquire the most deadly weapons, the march of history could be reversed for a time. And like the belated victory over the Nazis, the forces of progress and freedom will prevail only after an horrific toll of blood and fortune has been exacted from mankind. That is why the greatest threat facing the world today is the marriage between religious fanaticism and the weapons of mass destruction.
The most urgent challenge facing this body is to prevent the tyrants of Tehran from acquiring nuclear weapons. Are the member states of the United Nations up to that challenge? Will the international community confront a despotism that terrorizes its own people as they bravely stand up for freedom?
Will it take action against the dictators who stole an election in broad daylight and gunned down Iranian protesters who died in the streets choking in their own blood? Will the international community thwart the world's most pernicious sponsors and practitioners of terrorism?
Above all, will the international community stop the terrorist regime of Iran from developing atomic weapons, thereby endangering the peace of the entire world?
The people of Iran are courageously standing up to this regime. People of goodwill around the world stand with them, as do the thousands who have been protesting outside this hall. Will the United Nations stand by their side?
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The jury is still out on the United Nations, and recent signs are not encouraging. Rather than condemning the terrorists and their Iranian patrons, some here have condemned their victims. That is exactly what a recent UN report on Gaza did, falsely equating the terrorists with those they targeted.
For eight long years, Hamas fired from Gaza thousands of missiles, mortars and rockets on nearby Israeli cities. Year after year, as these missiles were deliberately hurled at our civilians, not a single UN resolution was passed condemning those criminal attacks. We heard nothing - absolutely nothing - from the UN Human Rights Council, a misnamed institution if there ever was one.
In 2005, hoping to advance peace, Israel unilaterally withdrew from every inch of Gaza . It dismantled 21 settlements and uprooted over 8,000 Israelis. We didn't get peace. Instead we got an Iranian backed terror base fifty miles from Tel Aviv. Life in Israeli towns and cities next to Gaza became a nightmare. You see, the Hamas rocket attacks not only continued, they increased tenfold. Again, the UN was silent.
Finally, after eight years of this unremitting assault, Israel was finally forced to respond. But how should we have responded? Well, there is only one example in history of thousands of rockets being fired on a country's civilian population. It happened when the Nazis rocketed British cities during World War II. During that war, the allies leveled German cities, causing hundreds of thousands of casualties. Israel chose to respond differently. Faced with an enemy committing a double war crime of firing on civilians while hiding behind civilians - Israel sought to conduct surgical strikes against the rocket launchers.
That was no easy task because the terrorists were firing missiles from homes and schools, using mosques as weapons depots and ferreting explosives in ambulances. Israel , by contrast, tried to minimize casualties by urging Palestinian civilians to vacate the targeted areas.
We dropped countless flyers over their homes, sent thousands of text messages and called thousands of cell phones asking people to leave. Never has a country gone to such extraordinary lengths to remove the enemy's civilian population from harm's way.
Yet faced with such a clear case of aggressor and victim, who did the UN Human Rights Council decide to condemn? Israel . A democracy legitimately defending itself against terror is morally hanged, drawn and quartered, and given an unfair trial to boot.
By these twisted standards, the UN Human Rights Council would have dragged Roosevelt and Churchill to the dock as war criminals. What a perversion of truth. What a perversion of justice.
Delegates of the United Nations,
Will you accept this farce?
Because if you do, the United Nations would revert to its darkest days, when the worst violators of human rights sat in judgment against the law-abiding democracies, when Zionism was equated with racism and when an automatic majority could declare that the earth is flat.
If this body does not reject this report, it would send a message to terrorists everywhere: Terror pays; if you launch your attacks from densely populated areas, you will win immunity. And in condemning Israel , this body would also deal a mortal blow to peace. Here's why.
When Israel left Gaza , many hoped that the missile attacks would stop. Others believed that at the very least, Israel would have international legitimacy to exercise its right of self-defense. What legitimacy? What self-defense?
The same UN that cheered Israel as it left Gaza and promised to back our right of self-defense now accuses us -my people, my country - of war crimes? And for what? For acting responsibly in self-defense. What a travesty!
Israel justly defended itself against terror. This biased and unjust report is a clear-cut test for all governments. Will you stand with Israel or will you stand with the terrorists?
We must know the answer to that question now. Now and not later. Because if Israel is again asked to take more risks for peace, we must know today that you will stand with us tomorrow. Only if we have the confidence that we can defend ourselves can we take further risks for peace.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
All of Israel wants peace.
Any time an Arab leader genuinely wanted peace with us, we made peace. We made peace with Egypt led by Anwar Sadat. We made peace with Jordan led by King Hussein. And if the Palestinians truly want peace, I and my government, and the people of Israel , will make peace. But we want a genuine peace, a defensible peace, a permanent peace. In 1947, this body voted to establish two states for two peoples - a Jewish state and an Arab state. The Jews accepted that resolution. The Arabs rejected it.
We ask the Palestinians to finally do what they have refused to do for 62 years: Say yes to a Jewish state. Just as we are asked to recognize a nation-state for the Palestinian people, the Palestinians must be asked to recognize the nation state of the Jewish people. The Jewish people are not foreign conquerors in the Land of Israel . This is the land of our forefathers.
Inscribed on the walls outside this building is the great Biblical vision of peace: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation. They shall learn war no more." These words were spoken by the Jewish prophet Isaiah 2,800 years ago as he walked in my country, in my city, in the hills of Judea and in the streets of Jerusalem .
We are not strangers to this land. It is our homeland. As deeply connected as we are to this land, we recognize that the Palestinians also live there and want a home of their own. We want to live side by side with them, two free peoples living in peace, prosperity and dignity.
But we must have security. The Palestinians should have all the powers to govern themselves except those handful of powers that could endanger Israel .
That is why a Palestinian state must be effectively demilitarized. We don't want another Gaza , another Iranian backed terror base abutting Jerusalem and perched on the hills a few kilometers from Tel Aviv.
We want peace.
I believe such a peace can be achieved. But only if we roll back the forces of terror, led by Iran , that seek to destroy peace, eliminate Israel and overthrow the world order. The question facing the international community is whether it is prepared to confront those forces or accommodate them.
Over seventy years ago, Winston Churchill lamented what he called the "confirmed unteachability of mankind," the unfortunate habit of civilized societies to sleep until danger nearly overtakes them.
Churchill bemoaned what he called the "want of foresight, the unwillingness to act when action will be simple and effective, the lack of clear thinking, the confusion of counsel until emergency comes, until self-preservation strikes its jarring gong."
I speak here today in the hope that Churchill's assessment of the "unteachability of mankind" is for once proven wrong.
I speak here today in the hope that we can learn from history -- that we can prevent danger in time.
In the spirit of the timeless words spoken to Joshua over 3,000 years ago, let us be strong and of good courage. Let us confront this peril, secure our future and, God willing, forge an enduring peace for generations to come. "
EPILOGUE: In answer to Arab writers from Iran, who have written me, asking that the United States to cut all U.S. foreign aid to Israel, and asking me to feel shame for incidents of cruelty by Israelis to Arabs in Gaza, I shall attempt an answer:
All foreign aid to other countries may have to be cut from our national budget as we are in such financial dire straits; we contribute billions to many other countries whose leaders line their pockets with money that should go to its peoples.
Israeli leaders do not steal our foreign aid; that money goes towards strengthening their military to protect Israel from all its Arab neighbors who wish it dead.
Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East; all of the other Arab countries are ruled illegally by strongman regimes, thugs who are repressive and cruel to their own peoples. Arab leaders steal elections and foreign aid and live like millionaires while their people are crushed with poverty and have no social services.
Israel allows women equal rights, and freedom of religion ; Arab nations do not allow Jewish synagogues or temples to be built and keeps their women dressed as bee-keepers chained to strict roles from the 4th century.
Israel has blossomed fruit from the desert while Arabs still camp out on sand. Are they wrong for their cruelty to others? Certainly, and it is unforgiveable.
Israel's treatment of "Palestinians" has been terrible, but it is just as cruel as Iran treats its own citizens, tortured, murdered and locked up for speaking out and assembling to protest their evil regime..
You cannot take a wood splinter from someone else's eye, when you have a whole wooded forest in your own face.
We, like you, only know whatever has been told us.
Do we know that George Washington was real?
We ONLY know about a myriad of things because people have TOLD us so.
We have no proof that George Washington was real except from what others tell us.
So, too, are Americans brainwashed by what propaganda we read in The New York Times.
Israel, its back up against the sea, is straddled on all sides by hateful yet devout Arab believers whose faith in their religion encourages and goads them to shamelessly murder and annihilate every Jew.
Israeli souls struggle again against Hitler's demonic promise; it is burned into the heart of every Jew Israeli who cannot see an Arab orchard or Arab house as civilian property owned by a private person about to be bulldozed by an Israeli bulldozer, but only as a house and orchard of a sworn enemy in front of its bulldozers.
Israel will bomb Irans atomic research facilities to stop its atomic research ONLY because Iranian policy swears to work hard to remove Israel from the map.
They are surrounded; just look at the map
That Arab choice of Jew nonacceptance and hatred has determined their fates.
Israel sees itself as DEFENDING itself and therefore NOT doing aggression to others.
They are a country always at war, much like America these days and both against a common enemy whose Holy Koran and religion promise death to all infidels, not of their Muslim faith.
Pig cannot fly and Palestinians will never, not ever take their "home" back.
Israel is firm and asks:
You have Mecca; why steal Jerusalem?It simply isn't yours to have, now, or ever.
Iran is NOT a peaceful country; Iran funds and arms Hesboullah to inspire terror in Jorden and in Gaza and Iran and has been at war with Iraq for decades. Peace loving? HUMBUG!
Iran has a demented leader who says that Israel should be wiped off the map; is this peaceful? North Korea's leader is just as demented and warlike and like Iran also building atom bombs.
The free world will not allow this to happen.
The only thing scarier, in America's and Israel's mind, than bombing Iran's atomic capabilities , is NOT bombing them.
Israel and America look forward to a time when help and rescue can come to you and your people from Iran's Nazi regime, a government who murdered and tortured its citizens in public streets when the people protested.
Iran's leader is, a thug, a criminal who stole your country's election and thus stole Democracy from you.
When people complained and protested, they were murdered by the thousands.
Never think that you are one who can question other nations.
America and Israel have totally prepared to dismantle rogue, gangster regimes like Syria, Iran and North Korea, regimes devoted to terrorism who will gladly murder innocent people because
they are fed on hatred.
They easily kill innocents, a mindset of war and political insanity.
These nations stand apart from all other nations in their evil intent.
Israel is America's adopted child; we in America are poised on your borders, deep within Iraq.
Think twice before pulling the tail of the tiger; when you do, the tiger doesn't run but it turns and faces you.
Violence proves to be good, after all:
Violence defeated evil Japan and evil Germany. .
If you pull the tail of this tiger, we shall come there and free you from your country of hatred and war, and we shall teach you all how to play baseball, like they now play in Japan and in Germany.
Has Israel done awful things to Gaza and West bank Arabs?
Yes, these awful things hard prove that Iran
should never doubt the Israeli will to survive; Israel will do even worse things to gangster regimes, like Iran, who threaten it.
Am I sorry for these awful things?
I am disgusted just as you are, but don't mistake niceness for weakness.
There must be plenty of room in Iran and Saudi Arabia and throughout all of Arab Persia for you to open all of your arms to welcome and rescue and nurture these Israeli mistreated refugee Palestinians, to take them to your countries, but not one Arab country has yet to do this; why?
Because they use these poor mistreated Palestinian people as an excuse to justify rabid anti Jewish hatred.
Israel airlifted the whole Ethiopean Jewish population to safety, within its borders when Arabs threatened them all with death
Shouldn't Iran and the Arab world be responsible for PLO rescue if Iran and others were as caring as you pretend to be?
As with Japan and Germany, in our great war against nations of evil, your nation's hatred has already determined your destiny.
We all must, the world must be eager to police the World, when such gangsters talk murder and prepare atomic weapons to do that murder.
Paul Schroeder
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Hi Paul, when you start, you don't stop until you finish do you? But I commend you for a great and well written article. I agree with almost 100% of it. If I had to make a choice of which nation I had the most admiration for, it would be Israel. I realize that every single Jew is not perfect, but percentage wise, I know of no other people who could come close to their fairness, decency, honesty and bravery. I have no Jewish blood but I am grateful to my parents who gave me two biblical Jewish names.
I served in the Army during the Korean war with several Jews, all of whom I would not have hesitated to leave my wallet in plain view of them when I left the area. I worked for many years for Jews. Some would, at times, yell and curse and pound their desk, then get up and put their arm around your shoulder and buy you a cup of coffee. These people would never steal aircraft and fly them into another country's buildings. They live as peaceably beside anyone as they can as long as they are not
attacked or threatened. But don't push them too far.
Bless you Paul, for writing this article.Please log in to respond to this comment.Joel, I sorely miss you and enjoy you even when we do not agree; this time, we simply do.
From the people who gave the world the uzi,
Much affection,
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Bless you, too, Joel and do please stay in touch even if we do not, in the future, agree.Please log in to respond to this comment.
You've been holding out on us Paul...... Who knew you harbored such capped founts of information and erudition concerning the world political stage- this article is cogent,pertinent, and coherently intelligent. Israel is the Jew's promised land- promised thousands of years ago.... and delivered by their god- won through many battles, trials and woe; it has been, and will be a long hard battle, but they will keep it. Thank You for writing this- Always- EllaPlease log in to respond to this comment.Israel is about to bomb Iranian nuclear capabilities in the same way that it bombed Iraqi nuclear capabilities; Israel believes that a preemptive strike is worth one hundred retaliatory ones and I surely wholeheartedly agree............
The real question, here, about peace, the real concern about peace, is who is going to blow up the Iranian madman Ahmadinejad's burgeoning nuclear stockpile first, Israel or the United States?
He threatens the world with annihilation on a mass scale and Iran must be stopped.
Although this attack will be tantamount to a declaration of war, it is more terrifying NOT to do this than it is terrifying to DO this.
How can this dictator be for "democratic solutions" when he orders his Iranian secret police to murder its protesters in great numbers in Iran's public streets?
We still have 50,000 troops at Iran's border, in Iraq; I deduce that now is the time to move before Iran acquires the capability to make good on its promise to "erase Israel from the map".
Israel is certainly most ready; it only waits and looks for the nod from Washington...........
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I love this article Paul. It is so informative and so right on.I too pray that we can learn from history. I would love to see you write more about your history and customs.You have so much Knowledge to share with others. I know so little about the bible and it's teachings, only that it is in Christ Jesus that I live, breath and have my being and without Him I am nothing.
Your friend,
Linda D
Please log in to respond to this comment.Israel has "turned the other cheek" for too long; even Jesus, the Christ, (who WAS an original Hebrew Israeli) would despair of these rabid Islamic fundamentalist Jihadists who mean, in "Allah's name", to bury us all.Please log in to respond to this comment.Thank you, Linda; put in a good word with Him, for me?
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Paul - this is the very best work you have done (in my estimation) on SW. Documented, researched and I give you a TEN. You already have seen my extended comments in my e-mail to you and I am definitely not disappointed now that I have read this whole piece. BRAVO!!!I will go on record here saying that you and I are in agreement on this one almost right down the line! (SHOCK, we don't have to "agree to disagree" on this one.)THANKS for writing this one.Please log in to respond to this comment.Thanks for being amicable; I have been having trouble with some who are having two-dog-fits over this Devil's advocate Israeli stance differing opinion, which I have tried to state, as though anything that we say on this tiny eddy pool of SW will effect world leader's minds or the world's opinions.....
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I don't know what to think about this. You make a good argument, but I need to read up on the other side too, before I can decide! In any case, you make me think, so thanks!I don't know what's happened, Paul, but your article is showing up in Readers Club as being 5 pages long, but there's nothing on any of pages 2-5. Just thought I'd tell you.Please log in to respond to this comment.Jen, when I just tried it, it DID work for me but I sent Bruce, et al, your error message about this; terrorists?Please log in to respond to this comment.NOT KNOWING WHAT TO THINK IS THE MOST SEASONED, HONEST RESPONSE, TO DATE.Please log in to respond to this comment.Have you revisted? Bruce advised me that he has put all on one page until he can resolve the error; thank you for alerting us.
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Greetings Paul -
Thank you for this potent piece. I agree with the bulk of what you have expressed here, and appreciate that you strongly and effectively brought it on.
Certainly I am no scholar on the matters of Israel. But this I do know, the Holy Bible clearly states that Israel is God's son and firstborn - Exodus 4:22. Also, salvation is of the Jews - of the Jew first - John 4:22 and Romans 2:9, 10.
ANYONE that is an enemy of Israel is an enemy of GOD.
Amos 9:15
And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the Lord thy God.
The land of Israel is covenant land given to Israel by GOD. Anyone who does battle with GOD cannot win.
GOD loves all people. It is vital to know, though, that Israel is His elect - Isaiah 45:4.
Note: Being GOD's elect does not mean escape from GOD's wrath when wrong is done...
Colossians 3:25
But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.Please log in to respond to this comment.Wow, Sandra,
Christians and Jews DO hang tight much to my delight!
May God bless you!~
PaulPlease log in to respond to this comment.There are some Christian churches which teach "replacement theology" - that the church replaced Israel in God's affections and promises in His word. Most Christians believe as Sandra has stated and will take up on behalf of Israel, pray for Israel and her people etc. many have given funds to help those Jewish people who are in other countries be able to go to Israel (Aliaya - not sure how it is spelled). anyhow, be encouraged in the Paul! MarijoPlease log in to respond to this comment.My heart soars to think that Christians may be Jews' friends!Please log in to respond to this comment.Paul, just a couple of weeks ago there was a Sunday set aside in churches in the US and maybe world wide where we had a whole bunch of scriptures about Israel (promises etc) and we all (all over the place) took time in our service to pray those scriptures over Israel.
I know my church is small and not typical (it is full gospel and doing the difficult things in these difficult times) but those prayer ideas and encouraging us to set aside time to pray for Israel was organized and might have been an "around the world" thing. SO let your heart soar and pray that more and more will realize the gospel was for the Jews FIRST and then the gentiles - and there are so many scriptures about praying for Jerusalem, Israel etc. they are God's heart - how could we not - I know, many Christians do not see things this way - I am so sorry!Please log in to respond to this comment.If those Christians could but keep one solitary thought in their heads and hearts it should be this; that Jesus, the Christ(Christos, Greek for "chosen One") was an Israeli Jew, that there were NO "Christians", in the world, in His time and for a long time.
This simple fact, when told to such offshoot and often Jew-hating(Protestant, Methodist,Baptist, Evangelical, Pentacostal, Lutheran, ad absurdum) Christians, seems to knock many of these "Christians" sideways with abject disbelief.....
Affection,
PaulPlease log in to respond to this comment.Marijo, replacement theology is so frustrating. Nothing in Scripture would even hint at such a thing. We gentile believers have been grafted in the Vine. thanks for sharing all of this with PaulPlease log in to respond to this comment.I am grateful for this data as I had no inkling; I am less the cynic and more accepting of the beauty and wisdom of almost all of the N.T.; the O.T. still grieves me sore except for psalms which is so uplifting........Please log in to respond to this comment.Paul, The Old Testament and New Testament are so intertwined, more than many give credit for. It is one beautiful tapestry if studied without a bias and cynical eye. I could not be the kind of Christian I am and still hope to be without the knowledge of the Old Testament and I certainly could not even begin to understand the depth of Jesus as the Lamb of God without understanding the sacrificial system and the passover. I am so glad you have gained some insight that eases your mind if even just a bit.Please log in to respond to this comment.You are so eloquent when this Bible passion lifts you.......Please log in to respond to this comment.Those who started out as Jews, "turned into" Christians....remember?......... basically, we are all still Jews-Please log in to respond to this comment.Amen Sandra! Excellent Scriptures :-)Please log in to respond to this comment.
I think this is an excellent article all the way around. The topic is hot and very "today." You article is well written, points well made.Please log in to respond to this comment.I actually wrote this article as an experiment, keeping "hot" and Bruce in mind, as he has often stated that, controversy, in articles on SW, brings readership....
This topic is lightyears far from my usual, highly unusual writing 'domain' ...
Affection,
PaulPlease log in to respond to this comment.That just proves that you've traveled "LIGHTYEARS" in a very short time........Please log in to respond to this comment.I am considering asking Greg to collaborate on some, any, future article where I, just for the sake of an SW intellectual argument, shall assume the Devil's advocate opposite stance, again; this might allow a newly presented "news" article with a novel, seasoned 'both sides' stance. Just an idea.
Affection,
PaulPlease log in to respond to this comment.Let's hope he will acquiesce, to the delight of us all-Please log in to respond to this comment.He seems mortally wounded having lost friendship and perspective of our love relationship; such is life......Please log in to respond to this comment.
I can only hope that our government has the family jewels to strike at the heart of Iran before the Israelis do; THAT will be something to remember the Obama regime for!Please log in to respond to this comment.
My dearest Paul - thank you for this right-on history lesson. It is the truth, though many choose to deny it. You gave well researched information and wrote very well.
As Christians, we are called to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. It's too bad the too many professing Christians had to practice such evil against the Jewish people. But one thing is for sure, Israel will not fall - It is God's promise and His land, and it is no coincidence that little piece of land has such huge effects on this world. Miracle after miracle happened in war time and this little country never falls. Jesus came to unite the Jew and the Christian. Many know and respond - Others still think they are separated. But they are joined by the Messiah. Again, I know we don't agree on much, but this piece - nice! TeresaPlease log in to respond to this comment.Theresa, you are a gift from God; we agree on more than you could imagine.
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